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Can anyone recommend an online Sindarion wordlist or dictionary (preferably one that allows more than 800 requests to be processed a day, since I always end up being the 801st..)? Or perhaps translate something for me?

I need the Sindarin translation of "Palace of a Thousand Windows" or just "Thousand Windows".

I know Menegroth means "thousand caves" and Henneth Annun is the "window on the west", so I thought it might be something like Menhenneth or Meneghenneth. Unfortunately, I don't know which element in Menegroth means "thousand," nor do I know how Sindarin consonant clusters work - is "gh" even a possible combination.

I'm going to go with Menhenneth for now, but if anyone knows, post or email me!

 

The element that means "thousand" is actually meneg; properly, as the second part of a compound word, henneth should become chenneth. I find Menegchenneth a bit cumbersome, though. You might be able to get away with, say, Menechenneth, since mene doesn't clash with any known Sindarin word.

And, teaching the man to fish...the Hiswelókë Dictionary Project. This site also has a downloadable PDF version of the dictionary. Très helpful, I've found.

-Aerlinnel

 

This site also has a downloadable PDF version of the dictionary. Très helpful, I've found.
Even better, it has Dragon Flame, an application for Windows, that has the dictionary and some small extras. I've been using it for a while now, and it's even better than the PDF

 

Ooh, I like! Thanks for the tip, Nath!

-Aerlinnel

 

Thanks for the help. I actually found that dictionary, but it apparently only allows 800 users to process requests a day, and when I got there the limit had been exceeded.

Is there a Sindarin course online? I found and went through the Quenya one on Ardalambion, but well, it's kind of odd to have all the Elves in my stories speaking Quenya all the time when Sindarin would've been their mother tongue.

 

As far as I know there is no complete Sindarin Course. You might try the Tôl Gannel site: a fun site which includes a few lessons of Sindarin tutorial at: http://site.voila.fr/tol_gannel/index.html
It is fairly well grounded in Tolkien’s Sindarin, though there are a few differences.

At Ardalambion - www.Ardalambion.com (also at http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf)
my recommendations include reading (studying) Helge K. Fauskanger’s article “Sindarin – the Noble Tongue” http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/sindarin.htm
and “SUGGESTED CONJUGATION of all known or inferred Sindarin verbs” http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/sindverb.htm


At Fellowship of the Wordsmiths (Gwaith-i-Phethdain) – http://www.elvish.org/gwaith/language.htm
I recommend “Summary of the Sindarin grammar,” “Sindarin Pronouns - a reconstruction” and “Dictionary of the Reconstructed Sindarin Words” all by Ryszard Derdzinski. These articles are based on Helge’s work and summarize it. I find the charts and lists quite helpful and refer to them often.

I recommend (as previous posters have noted) the download version of Hiswelókë's terrific Sindarin dictionary
http://www.jrrvf.com/~hisweloke/sindar/
and the Dragon Flame download also. It is an excellent program that puts the interactive Sindarin dictionary, complete corpus and a list of neo-Sindarin words on your computer. It is very easy to use. I use both extensively.

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Other Resources
Mellonath Daeron – more language helps http://forodrim.letsrock.nu/daeron/md_home.html

Mellonath Daeron’s “Elvish phrasebook”
http://www.forodrim.org/daeron/md_parl.html

Ardalambion’s “A Taste of Elvish”
http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/vocab.htm

For more in-depth study:
Vinyar Tengwar is a newsletter dedicated to publishing new information on Tolkien’s languages. http://www.elvish.org/VT
More technical, but helpful as one progresses with either language.

I also recommend the Elfling mailing list at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling
Ithildin

 

I also finally tracked down the link to this experimental Sindarin Tutorial at Ardalambion:
http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/s-tutorial.rtf

or – if you can read French – Didier Willis’s (partial) Sindarin Course:
http://www.jrrvf.com/langues/cours_sindarin/sdcours.html

Ithildin

 

or – if you can read French – Didier Willis’s (partial) Sindarin Course:

*Aerlinnel scampers off to amuse herself via Babelfish...*

 

I actually found that dictionary, but it apparently only allows 800 users to process requests a day, and when I got there the limit had been exceeded.

Download either the dictionary or the DragonFlame program. No more trouble with request limits.

-Aerlinnel

 

Unfortunately this isn't my computer, so I can't download anything ... I can read French, however. Many thanks for the helpful links!!

 

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