Beginnings: 2. Notes

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2. Notes

Curunír is the maia who eventually became Saruman. Originally he was one of the maiar who served Aulë, the vala who crafted the earth. Given that Fëanor trained under his father-in-law Mahtan, who was himself a direct student of Aulë, I can easily see him knowing his mentor's mentor. I have chosen to use Sindarin names rather than their Quenya versions even though this story is set in Valinor, partly because those are the names I am most familiar with, but also because we do not know what name Curunír/Saruman would have used in Valinor. (Though Unfinished Tales names him as Curumo, this is simply the Quenya version of his Sindarin name, and the Lord of the Rings appendices suggests the istari did not reveal their "true" names in Middle-earth. I suspect Curumo was a translation of his istari pseudonym rather than the name he used in Valinor.)

Curunír's discussion of being changeless is inspired by debates in medieval philosophy about the immutability of God. The thinking is, if something is truly eternal and immortal – which the Ainur were even more than the Elves, since they existed before time – then "growth" would not apply the same way it does to things with a beginning, because growth implies progressing through time, and that doesn't apply the same way to something that exists before time (if we can even use that word!). In point of fact we know the Ainur do change, but I can also see them having to learn that. At this point in time I think Curunír would think they would always be more or less like they were during the Song.

Thanks to [redacted] for the beta.


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Author: Marta

Status: Reviewed

Completion: Complete

Era: Pre-Trees

Genre: General

Rating: General

Last Updated: 09/30/12

Original Post: 08/18/12

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